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Sailor Mars Senshi of Activities
Posts : 288 Join date : 2014-06-16 Age : 35 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:18 am | |
| Some of the CG of the transformations is good, but a lot of it is very shotty and not well done in places to the point for a lot of fans, including myself, it ruins it. |
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mercuryfan Eternal Senshi
Posts : 525 Join date : 2014-06-10 Age : 53 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Wed Aug 20, 2014 11:41 am | |
| - Sailor Pandabear wrote:
- mercuryfan wrote:
- I was going to ask if I was the only one who liked the new transformations - until I saw that. I think they were very artistically done in a 3-D style.
* hugs you with great enthusiasm* Thank you for liking it. I feel like i am a few of some fans who like it. Ah, cool. Thank you also. Maybe the two of us should get together and make a shrine to Crystal's CG transformations . |
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Sailor Pandabear Super Senshi
Posts : 403 Join date : 2014-04-23 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:15 pm | |
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Sailor Pandabear Super Senshi
Posts : 403 Join date : 2014-04-23 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:40 pm | |
| here's a silly question: who voices sailor Mars? -- Also: I like that some things remain the same and some don't. |
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Sailor Mars Senshi of Activities
Posts : 288 Join date : 2014-06-16 Age : 35 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Thu Aug 21, 2014 1:31 pm | |
| Apparently Rina Sato is the Japanese voice actor for Sailor Mars. |
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Sailor Pandabear Super Senshi
Posts : 403 Join date : 2014-04-23 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Thu Aug 21, 2014 1:44 pm | |
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Sailor Mars Senshi of Activities
Posts : 288 Join date : 2014-06-16 Age : 35 Location : Canada
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Thu Aug 21, 2014 1:47 pm | |
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Sailor Saturn Senshi of the Arts
Posts : 1564 Join date : 2013-08-23 Age : 41 Location : Central NY
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:07 pm | |
| I really Makoto/Jupiter and her transformation. |
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Sailor V Senshi of Members
Posts : 2236 Join date : 2013-08-20 Age : 34 Location : Dreamland
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:10 pm | |
| THIS IS THE BEST EPISODE THUS FAR!! They have finally stepped up their game both storywise and animation wise. I'm glad Mako got the best treatment in her episode. I love her to death. <3 |
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Sailor Saturn Senshi of the Arts
Posts : 1564 Join date : 2013-08-23 Age : 41 Location : Central NY
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:11 pm | |
| She is going to be quite formidable. I loved her attacks and that lunch scene with her and Usagi |
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Sailor V Senshi of Members
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| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:56 pm | |
| I loved how Mako just chucked that baseball. |
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mercuryfan Eternal Senshi
Posts : 525 Join date : 2014-06-10 Age : 53 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:00 pm | |
| Actually, I thought Makoto's transformation into Jupiter was quite bland, that it had no pizzazz whatsoever.
Plus, I don't like how casual they are being with confusing their senshi identities and human/civilian identities. For example, how did Tuxedo Mask know to go to Usagi's bedroom window to get help?
But other than those things, I liked episode 5. For example, I agree with Sailor Saturn that the scene with Makoto sharing her lunch was good, and Jupiter's attacks were great.
Plus I loved that part where Makoto answered that question about being in the other school uniform! I'm so glad they explained that in the Crystal episodes! It's a ray of hope that Crystal will explain things like that which the original anime didn't! |
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Sailor V Senshi of Members
Posts : 2236 Join date : 2013-08-20 Age : 34 Location : Dreamland
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:18 pm | |
| As for her transformation being good I meant the CGI didn't look bad at all. To me all the transformations are pretty bland because they just took the old ones and CGI it. Sailor Moon in general has boring transformations. They're fun to watch and the music is great (the original anime music), but it's missing something.
As for Tuxedo Mask going to Usa's room. At this point in the manga and in Crystal he knows her identity. He picked up on several clues. However how he knew where she lived is beyond me. The manga didn't explain it either.
As for the girls figuring out who Sailor Moon I think it's because Usagi is being Usagi. The way she talks. But yeah it's dumb that they can figure out who she is, but civilians can't? It made sense with Tuxedo Mask because he watched Usagi talking to Luna, transformation into a flight attended, ect. Sailor Moon was never good with the secret identity thing. Heck in PGSM they just said their civilian names when transformed. Luna was the only one that called them by their Sailor names. Anime logic! It hurts the brain. XD
I think the original anime touch up on Mako's height a little bit, but there were no full details. I need to rewatch Jupiter's debut episode in the original anime. It was like one line. I could be wrong though. I haven't rewatch the original anime in awhile. |
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mercuryfan Eternal Senshi
Posts : 525 Join date : 2014-06-10 Age : 53 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:08 am | |
| I think you and I are just going to have to agree to disagree about Crystal's transformations, Sailor V - you seem to be looking for something completely different than what I'm looking for, if not nearly opposite. As for Makoto's height, it may have been mentioned briefly in the original anime series, but I'm pretty sure it was never used as the reason why she's wearing the different school uniform. The latter is what I meant to convey. BTW, I also loved how Makoto just chucked that baseball. Finally, this isn't supposed to be just a debate between Sailor V and myself. The rest of you are welcome to chime in with your thoughts about anything in episode 5. |
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Sailor V Senshi of Members
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| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:35 am | |
| What are you looking for exactly? They're just the old transformations, but in CG. I think Mako looks the bet CG animation wise. I agree it would be nice if it had more to it. I wish they made brand new transformations. I still think the CG looks like crap. I've been spoil by Pixar. >.> |
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Sailor Pandabear Super Senshi
Posts : 403 Join date : 2014-04-23 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:15 am | |
| I loved: 1. the usagi bench scene. she was so sneaky. it was a cute scene and the "I can't control my hand!" part. 2. I liked the Makoto rescuing Usagi from the car scene. 3. as Mercuryfan mentioned, I also loved how Makoto just chucked that baseball 4.Sailor Mars's attack. It was awesome! that fire! that.... brilliance. whoa.I think I am in love! 5. I loved Sailor Jupiter's attacks! She was super awesome! disappointments:
1. no groom usagi 2. It was disappointing that Ami.. did not really do anything in the episode except transform... I mean sailor moon did not use any magic but she did have some inspiring words to say. 3. mercuryfan mentioned this but it was slightly disturbing to me... this: I don't like how casual they are being with confusing their senshi identities and human/civilian identities. For example, how did Tuxedo Mask know to go to Usagi's bedroom window to get help?
one more note: Makoto's sempai was a moron.
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mercuryfan Eternal Senshi
Posts : 525 Join date : 2014-06-10 Age : 53 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:20 am | |
| Now that Sailor Pandabear mentions it, I'm also not particularly fond of the fact that Ami transformed, but she didn't really do anything as Sailor Mercury. Why have her transform if she's not going to use any of her senshi powers?
BTW, Sailor Pandabear, what exactly do you mean in your other listed disappointment when you said "no groom usagi"? I don't understand.
Hmmmmm - well, Sailor V, I'd say I'm looking for a spiffed-up version of the original anime's transformation sequences. Something with most of the elements of the original anime's transformations, but with certain parts of it improved by using CGI. I'm not looking for a jarring or complete change, because that would be too much of a difference to me.
That's just my opinion. |
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Sailor V Senshi of Members
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| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:14 am | |
| In the manga Usagi transformed into a groom using the Luna pen. |
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Sailor Pandabear Super Senshi
Posts : 403 Join date : 2014-04-23 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:19 pm | |
| yes, what sailor V said. --- Also, I liked the part where Mamoru closed the book. It... I don't know. I like it for some strange unnameable reason. |
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Sailor V Senshi of Members
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| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:00 pm | |
| I am such a deebie downer. I feel like I'm always bashing Crystal, but episode 6 just made me so mad. The animation direction was awful and the storytelling was awful as well. I didn't feel for Usagi what so ever. She was suppose to feel doubtful about her leadership abilities and Crystal did not show it every well. To me when she was talking to Tux about her feelings it just came out of no where. Then there was that plothole. Tux said she was a good leader and then she was like I can't transform in front of him. Girl! If he was telling you that you're a cable leader that means he knows who you are. Crystal is not doing so hot for me right now. I'm sorry everyone!! I'm glad that people love it and I respect their opinions. |
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mercuryfan Eternal Senshi
Posts : 525 Join date : 2014-06-10 Age : 53 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:04 am | |
| Actually, I kind of have to agree with Sailor V about the storytelling in Crystal episode 6. For example, I agree with her about its plot-hole (about Usagi not wanting to transform in front of Tuxedo Mask). Plus, it makes no sense to me how the continuity directors are being so careless about everyone else - including Luna, who should be looking out for their interests - being so careless about hiding their dual identities (for example, calling a senshi by her human/civilian form name), yet suddenly trying to throw the curveball in about Usagi being so careful about not wanting to reveal it. Furthermore, isn't Usagi/Sailor Moon being too dependent on Tuxedo Mask, especially in episode 6? Doesn't this kind of go against the theme of Sailor Moon, that these girls don't need the protection and help of men?
Though I'd also like to make one positive note about episode 6. Remember back in Crystal episode 4 (I think it was) that Tuxedo Mask muttered to himself "I definitely saw her transform," about Usagi? And how I commented that I hoped the continuity directors would remember that point, pick it up in a future episode, and give it meaning? Well, they now have - here in episode 6. It helps explain how Tuxedo Mask knew that Usagi was Sailor Moon. Yes, it may have been used in a bad way, as Sailor V pointed out. But I like that at least it was used. |
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Sailor Pandabear Super Senshi
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| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:57 pm | |
| I hate to agree but i agree.
But I liked the part where we saw Sailor V and Artemis. even if it was just a few minutes/ seconds... that made me happy.
I also liked that the three( Mars, Mercury and Jupiter) were all throwing attacks at Zoisite( did i spell his name right?) |
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mercuryfan Eternal Senshi
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| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:54 pm | |
| I also liked that all three of them were throwing attacks at Zoisite. In fact, I found it kind of neat that they were all new, unnamed attacks. |
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Sailor V Senshi of Members
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| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:59 pm | |
| To be fair with Tux he was written to support Moon and give her the courage to fight. The only time he truly rescued her was in episode 2 during the fight. Every other time the girls did things on their own. I think that's the best thing about Sailor Moon that everyone needs that support in their life regardless of the support's gender. |
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Sailor Pandabear Super Senshi
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| Subject: Re: Sailor Moon Crystal: Episode Discussion Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:18 am | |
| - mercuryfan wrote:
- Furthermore, isn't Usagi/Sailor Moon being too dependent on Tuxedo Mask, especially in episode 6? Doesn't this kind of go against the theme of Sailor Moon, that these girls don't need the protection and help of men?
i eliminated some words in the quote as they do not pertain to what i am going to type out. I know Sailor V has stated he is for support. I believe that the song is stating that they are not damsels and well, she is not really being dependent on Tuxedo mask, it is more... well, i see it as he is trying to make sure she has faith and determination in her own powers. --- also: did sailor moon fly or something? --- Sailor Moon also amazed me with how she jumped onto the roof. it was like: whoa, wait. what did i just see? |
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